the three of them that were running was governor romney from massachusetts, governor palenti from minnesota and -- they were serious candidates. when he didn't catch fire in iowa, pawlenty dropped out. the other eight didn't drop out because they were selling books. this time around, look who is around the table. chris christie for sure. significant reforms in that state, $130 billion in reduced unfunded liabilities state pension system, ended the millionaires tax, no tax increase, period -- >> so he fits the governor norquist filter. he gets through? >> yeah. i think somebody you're looking at is somebody who can finance a campaign all the way through, look you in the eye and say confidence, seriousness -- >> rand paul? >> let me do the governors first and then we'll do the three senators, because i think the advantage is with governors. they can raise money more easily. the senator says, look what i did, but yeah, 50 other people voted the same way. >> christie is serious? >> christie, certainly. governor scott walker of wisconsin who has changed it from a blue state to a red state, chang